My main’s a dwarf paladin, and so everytime I get to smite an undead or demon, I cheer. Shouldn’t he be bound just as strongly to doing right as the Kirin Tor? I suggest as a solution, something similar to the class quests, where paladins and mages have different circumstances than rogues and warlocks, who are inherently unabashed at evil. That way the people who decide to play as the more outcast characters fit in with their roles more than those who are supposedly righteous.

I’m a quest freak. I have this insatiable desire to do all the quests. So, I kinda have to do this quest. I can do it on moral grounds the same way I can play mafia. I’m playing a character. The character may be of less moral character than I am (and *is* in the case of Mafia and I’m a mafia member). What’s interesting is that I’m a mage, and I’m looking to befriend myself with the Kirin Tor, hopefully becoming one myself some day. If I’m not allowed to do that as a member of the Kirin Tor, why should I be allowed to that as a potential member? As a mage, I started off friendly with them, so I picked up my tabard from them as soon as I could. I actually did this quest while “championing” with them. So, as far as the subject is concerned, I *am* a member of the Kirin Tor. His perception of the Kirin Tor has decreased (but I guess there’s nothing that can really be done about that).